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Post by saltgunempty on Oct 18, 2017 19:49:44 GMT -5
If he's supposed to be anything like a new Kevin it just got a lot worse.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Oct 18, 2017 22:52:57 GMT -5
Kinda makes him seem that much more doomed, doesn't it?
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Post by saltgunempty on Oct 19, 2017 11:56:16 GMT -5
I assume he's doomed regardless. It's only a question of if he's doomed for being evil or making a sacrifice. I just cared about Kevin as a character for the most part and was never like "kill him now while the killing is good!" Jack is very simple choice and so far he's offputting on top of that.
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Post by luxshine on Nov 15, 2017 1:29:53 GMT -5
The bizarre thing is that it's such an obvious bait-and-switch, making Dean "wrong." Dean isn't wrong. Jack is incredibly dangerous and volatile, but Sam wants to take him home and hug him and squeeze him and name him George. Another red flag that Sam's judgement is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off: It's sweet and all that Sam retains hope his mother is still alive and wants to rescue her, but opening that portal to the other reality (the really sucky one for humans) is "Let's lift the MoC and release the Darkness; what could possibly go wrong?" levels of stupid. It just goes to show that Sam hasn't actually learned all that much in 13 years. The fact that Dean is willing to shut that door permanently shows that he is willing to continue to sacrifice to keep the world safe--just another indication that Chuck left him in charge, not him and Sam. Sam can't be trusted with a cactus, let alone the SPNverse. Is my headcanon that Chuck added the "and Sam" because he knew that if he didn´t, in OUR universe fangirls would be rabid. Because yeah, Sam hasn´t learned much in 13 years hunting. Well, he NOW learned that "if you see your loved one yanked into another dimension by a demon, it doesn´t mean they´re dead so you should maybe look into saving them", about 5 seasons too late to actually be useful.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Nov 17, 2017 1:09:26 GMT -5
Well, it's basically just a reversal of earlier seasons' "Sam is soooo important to the mytharc--oh, and Dean is, too. Because he's All About Sam" stuff. Chuck tells Dean that because Dean isn't ready (and may never be ready) to hear that yeah, really, it's all on him. Dean needs to feel that he's not alone in this and can you blame him?
But the way all the heavy hitters treat Sam, it's quite obvious that no, they don't consider him a major player on their level. The only person saying "Golly, Sam needs to be brought back from the dead" has always been Dean, whereas Dean is ready and willing to die permanently, but nobody will let him.
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