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Post by Mystique on Nov 8, 2017 22:13:24 GMT -5
So, what's your rating for this one?
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Post by paforrest on Nov 10, 2017 18:54:23 GMT -5
So, do you think Yockey will become the one Dean fan writer on staff, or was this one a fluke? I was shocked at how Deancentric this episode was, and that after being such a douchebag to Dean every episode until now, Sam suddenly wanted to understand and care about his brother's pain. Sam really is just a plot device at this point.
I think this episode in general was leaps and bounds above everything else this season because foremost it wasn't an episode of "Jacknatural". The kid was benched - finally. Yockey wrote an episode that was actually about the brothers working an old-fashioned case together - and a storyline that honestly felt more along the lines of the Kripke years. And even though I'm sick to freaking death of the only thing Jensen being given for his character are depression issues year after year, Jensen per norm rose to the occasion and nailed a variety of raw emotions in this episode. Even better, he was allowed to legitimately interact with the guest stars for a change, and took the lead after playing Sam's wallpaper all season 12.
I thought it was a fairly logical interesting twist in promoting Billie to Death, and as Death she was a LOT less annoying than she was as a reaper. It was also interesting and completely out of the blue for her to tell Dean that he was important (of course, she had to include Sam). But fool me ... a gazillion times? Yeah, I'll believe this leads to something when it's actually written down on paper, filmed, and aired on TV. Still, we haven't heard anything like that for a long time.
I also liked how the reveal that Cas was back was played predominantly between Dean and Cas, and Sam was there off to the sidelines. Boo-hoo Sam fans - now you know how season 12 felt for Dean fans.
I'm not sure Cas hadn't done come back wrong again, though. It'd be redundant as hell, but that's how SPN rolls.
7/10
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Post by thesnowleopard on Nov 10, 2017 23:45:36 GMT -5
I don't normally like to rate until I've seen an episode at least twice and thought on it a while, but I'm gonna give this one a high rating because it finally got things back on track after a season's worth of self-indulgent crap. I'm sure the next two episodes (written by three of the worst writers the show has ever had) won't follow up on this in any significant way, but I'm sure we'll get back to it soon enough.
Also, that ghost was creepy AF and the timing of how they dispatched it was novel.
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Post by Mystique on Nov 13, 2017 8:58:52 GMT -5
6/10 for me
Dean was hilariously entertaining in the first half, and I loved seeing him at the front and center in the second half. The end with the sliver scene with Dean and Cas was good, though it being longer would have been more to my liking. I have always thought Billie was okay and liked her at times, but I think she's gotten better. Sam was actually interesting too and the incredulous looks Dean was giving him were funny. And no Jack was refreshing.
However, the acting by the guest stars was terrible. I, myself, thought the ghost was cheesy as hell. The episode wasn't as tight and didn't seem to have as much of the fine tuning I've come to expect from Yockey.
This was a good ep, for me, far and away better than what the hold-out writers have delivered.
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Post by saltgunempty on Nov 13, 2017 21:21:06 GMT -5
Wow. It was actually good.
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