Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 20:18:07 GMT -5
Unnecessary recap of Mick's speech about monsters to Mary. More necessary recap of Gavin, since it's been years since we saw him. Recap of last week's ep that shows how much it sucked.
Cut to six months ago in Andover, MA (hi Great-something Grandpa Francis!). Really creepy intro as a Doomed Teaser Gal is brushing her teeth and going to bed. She then gets grabbed from underneath by electrifying hands and we get blood spatter on a nearby family portrait.
Cut to Now(?) and Dean recapping that Demon Baby Mama is still MIA (can she stay that way?). Sam mentions a new victim in the teaser case whose tongue was ripped out. Dean suggests the call Mary.
Mary is killing monsters with a taser as a test in front of Mr. Retch. She gets a call from Dean (who senses something is up) and makes excuses. As she hangs up, Retch very unwisely mentions she's a great liar. Mary growls that she hasn't told her sons about her working with the LoL. They don't trust the LoL. this may have something to do with their "rogue operative" having tortured her kids. Hmm. Trouble in Paradise?
Cut to Crowley, who infodumps the plothole from the crappy "LOTUS" episode, has been mighty stupid, it seems. He diverted the spell to send Lucifer back to the Cage. Blahblah, really stupid retcon, blahblah Lucifer found his old vessel again (which, btw, was actually turned to dust when Lucifer left it), blahblahblah, we've got Nickifer again, new and improved. Oh, well. After all the Chuckawful "vessels" Lucifer has had to this point, if we're stuck with him, we might as well have Mark P. I wasn't *that* wedded to losing Castiel for Casifer.
In the obligatory night time chat, Sam mentions Doomed Teaser Gal and muses about Mary not making it. Dean admits he's suspicious. Sam makes excuses. So, business as usual.
The Brothers visit a museum with a shipwreck and Dean discovers lots of EMF. Sam mentions that museums have lots of objects, so lots of ghosts.
Ugh. Kelly just showed up. In a diner. Feeling whiny about motherhood. Well, hon, you always could've used birth control or gotten that abortion.
Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 20:33:13 GMT -5
So, that happened.
Nickifer is laughing at Crowley thinking this will end well for him. I agree with Nickifer for once. Crowley giving in to his desire for revenge is a new low in dumb. Though Nickifer is happy to blab all about his new love child Nephilim.
In the museum, the Brothers find out the wreck exhibit is from Andover and about the Star, which Dean recognizes as the one on which Gavin was supposed to sink.
Dean happens to call just when Nickifer is claiming the Brothers lied to Crowley, so Crowley refuses to cooperate. Because this episode writing Crowley as really, really dumb.
At a bus outside the museum, something unseen slips a locket into the guide's coat pocket.
The Brothers go to Plan B and recruit Rowena.
Meanwhile, two angels stalk Kelly, but she's saved by Dagon. Who can kill demons. Hmm, seem to recall that if Lilith could have killed angels, she would have, and YED stayed away from them entirely.
Kelly somewhat halfway intelligently is suspicious of Dagon's story about how awesome her baby daddy is and how evil the angels and Brothers are. Kelly sorta buys this through a combination of "Pregnancy makes you stupid" and genre episode stupidity.
Cue the sneak peek. First one, anyway, where the Brothers meet Gavin at the bus stop and introduce him to his grandmother.
Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 20:38:29 GMT -5
They take Gavin to the museum and have him go through who he remembers went on board and the ship's manifest. He finds his fiancee's locket and it appears she went on the ship. Brief recap of Abaddon (we miss you, girlfriend!).
Gavin is as clueless as ever.
Dean immediately notices that the locket is no longer in the exhibit.
Cut to Mary and Mr. Retch. Can he die sooner than later? He's quite boring. He (really) unwisely suggests Mary "disengage" from her sons. When she says nothing comes before her family, he stupidly pushes it, claiming that she's "softer" and "weaker" with her sons. Then he tries to flatter her as a mighty Hunter who doesn't need anyone else. After all, the LoL are his family. Saddo.
Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 20:50:02 GMT -5
The Brothers consult with the curator about the "theft" of the locket and Dean asks about the latest school groups who came through (because he and Sam suspect the killer is a schoolteacher, since those have been the latest victims). One came through from the Pembroke School of Girls.
Note that this week, Dean is the only one with a brain.
At said school, two teachers are grading late when a hooded figure shows up and murders one of them. Thunder and lightning and rain, and the Brothers show up just in time to save the second teacher.
The Brothers set up a trap where Gavin sits in a chair summons the ghost. To determine if it was Fiona.
The ghost shows up, in a hooded green clock, then transforms into Gavin's fiancee. She seems glad at first and then says he abandoned her. She's mad, even when he tries to explain that he was "sent away." Seems the crew found her and gang-raped her, and their teacher, who was also on board, mocked her. So, she's now fixated on killing teachers.
Gavin is upset about Fiona's kills. The Brothers suggest that if he goes back, he could make history right again and "save" Fiona from becoming a vengeful spirit. Rowena is upset, but Gavin says he agrees with them.
Crowley, who is still very, very stupid, shows up suddenly and rages at the plan. It turns out Gavin called him. Crowley asks why Gavin called him if he didn't want to be saved. Gavin says it was to say goodbye.
Rowena is now on board with the plan, understanding, perhaps, that Gavin will end up in Heaven with his girl. She freezes Crowley with a spell, though he can still speak. Lemme guess--this is the very, very stupid reason why Crowley will now work with Nickifer.
The Brothers leave with Gavin for the Bunker. They do the time spell Henry had used, "tweaked" by Rowena, who has stayed back at the school.
The Brothers give Gavin a pep talk about how he's doing the right thing. Though teary-eyed, Gavin sees it through. Sam says the spell. Gavin doesn't actually go back in time. Instead, Fiona appears beside him, they both turn into ghosts, and they disappear in a bright glow that usually signifies the ghost is going to Heaven (coughThe Veilcoughcough).
Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 21:02:06 GMT -5
So, the Brothers remember everything, but the timeline is back to normal. Um...okay.
Mary shows up. Dean calls Mary on having been gone so long. Sam tries to say Dean was being "dramatic."
Mary has a peace offering--beer and burgers--and Dean immediately forgives her.
Well, until Mary drops the other shoe and admits she's been working with the LoL. She tries the spiel on them. Dean is very quiet, while Sam looks really hurt. Mary tries to put it back on Dean about his giving her "the face" (Dean refuses to take it). Sam expresses his pain about her working with people who tortured him (yay, Sam! Totally appropriate response!) and also points out that how he and Dean do things has worked very well so far.
Mary asks them to let her explain.
In a bus shelter, Crowley confronts Rowena about Gavin. Rowena says she loved Gavin as much as she loved Oskar. She says she wanted Crowley to suffer for making her kill Oskar, though she allows that it was also the right decision for Gavin. Then she walks away.
Oh, my! A little Rolling Stones ("Playing with Fire") as we see Nickifer and a montage of Mary trying to explain her position to the Brothers. Also, Dagon with Kelly as Nickifer calls out to Dagon. Zero interest in Kelly, but I kinda like the actress playing Dagon. Sadly, it seems she'll be thrown under the Lucifer melodrama bus.
Again the brothers are guest stars because a whole lot of screentime goes to everything else.
Nice to see Abaddon again and I have to say that Gavin isn't that bad at all. Must look after his mother.
No argument at all what a clusterfuck this whole Demon Baby Mama Drama storyline has turned into. The best thing I can say about it is that it still hasn't plumbed the depths of stupid Grimm did, twice, with similar plots. But that's a really low bar. Grimm would probably be getting at least another season if the writers hadn't started out so poorly with their GotWs and just plain given up on quality control in season three.
That said, with all the plotholes (very common in ghost episodes), the ghost and kill scenes were very creepy. Also, there was more of Dean than I expected and he was presented as easily the sharpest tool in the shed throughout. Plus, Mary came clean, so we don't have that hanging over the proceedings for the next five episodes.
First of all, Mary's the best hunter the BMoL has ever seen. Yeah right.
Second of all, S&D should have kicked her out of the Bunker after this.
Samantha Smith was online, she retweeted something just before the episode aired but after that, silence.
I think she knows how much we despise her, her character that is. Which is sad because I like Sam.
Found it weird that the dead teachers were alive suddenly. But I liked seeing Gavin again, to bad we didn't see Rowena's reaction on being a grandmother. She must have been shocked to hear that, maybe a snark comment about Crowley or how she is to young to be a grandmother.
Loved the 1.5 seconds of Abaddon, talk about your badass woman.
Sam restraining Rowena in the beginning. I don't know, but I liked it. Sam's hurt at his mothers words. Dean's face at the end <3
The CW SPN tweeted the promo for next week right after the episode ended.
Post by thesnowleopard on Feb 23, 2017 22:26:37 GMT -5
I thought Rowena and Dean came off best. Rowena's motivations were clearly mixed, but she was protecting herself by telling Crowley the worst one. Even she admitted that Gavin wasn't like her and Crowley (i.e., already damned), so he's probably now in Heaven. But she's got to know that Crowley is twisted enough to deny his son Heaven so that he can have Gavin out in the world to visit, since being in Heaven cuts Gavin off from his father forever.
Dean knew something was up with Mary. He knew something was up with Crowley. And he didn't beat around the bush with Gavin. Plus, when Mary 'fessed up, he did listen. Go Dean.
If Sam Smith is not tweeting on the show because fans on Twitter are hostile, that's on those fans. Hating the actress for crappy writing she can't change is immature. Come on, people.
As for Retch shining Mary on, he was clearly trying to suck up to her and she clearly knew it. Hence why she went back home to her sons, told them family comes first, and then admitted she was working with the LoL. Retch doesn't really think she's all that and she obviously knows he doesn't.
My big problem with that storyline is that Retch and the LoL suck so hard and are pretty incompetent.
thesnowleopard: The season finale was better than last season's finale. Hell, the whole season was better than last season. Some episodes were worth watching. Others were kinda messy.
Jun 12, 2018 22:47:11 GMT -5
onali: Since I haven't been watching the show I don't know how some (former) dead characters have returned (in what form) but I have to say that I don't miss the show at all. Is it still worth watching or not?
May 7, 2018 19:43:37 GMT -5
onali: It's been a long time since I've been here. Only watched the Season premiere then .... nothing. Every now and again I watched what you were rating the episodes and yes I've seen some spoilers (can some people just please stay dead??!!!!!) (1)
May 7, 2018 19:42:01 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: I'm not, and I think I'm gonna stop working SPN conventions. BTW, welcome!
Feb 19, 2018 0:55:03 GMT -5
gopacgo12: Ok, so is anyone here going to the Las Vegas 2018 Supernatural convention, because if so I will see you there, but i'd just like to talk to some others
Feb 18, 2018 23:55:22 GMT -5
thesnowleopard: I have to wait until tomorrow night to "live recap." I don't currently have live TV, just streaming.
Oct 12, 2017 20:17:07 GMT -5
paforrest: Excited is not what I'm feeling. But I've set the dvr, will live watch Gotham & Will & Grace, then The Good Place off the dvr. Maybe tomorrow I'll FF through SPN if, and only IF, I hear there's any good Dean.
Oct 12, 2017 14:18:09 GMT -5
onali: So ... who is excited for tomorrow? I still have to re-watch the last couple of episodes, but I am lacking the enthousiasm.
Oct 11, 2017 21:45:06 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Just FYI guys, Luxshine is going to be in Florida come mid October. She and I are going to be vending as artists at Spooky Empire. So much hugs and puppies to her when she's here.
Sept 25, 2017 18:55:18 GMT -5
luxshine: Thank guys. There was ANOTHER earthquake here today, but this time I didn´t even feel it. Just dealing with a bit of PTSD. So if you can send fluffy things and cute Jensen or Misha pics my way, I´ll appreciate it.
Sept 23, 2017 16:37:18 GMT -5
onali: Glad you all are ok over there.
Sept 22, 2017 19:31:28 GMT -5
paforrest: So glad you're okay, luxshine! Absolutely heartbreaking situation. And I'm terrified and devastated for Puerto Rico and the other islands impacted by Maria. Mother Earth is very pissed off at us.
Sept 20, 2017 7:25:07 GMT -5
luxshine: New Earthquake here in Mexico. Now... a bit more savage than last week's. But I'm ok!
Sept 19, 2017 20:37:51 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: And now we may have Maria...
Sept 19, 2017 13:10:20 GMT -5
luxshine: I'm glad people from Florida are ok! We had a bit of an earthquake in Mexico, but other than three terrified kitties, I'm ok.
Sept 18, 2017 19:14:05 GMT -5
paforrest: Belatedly checking in from Florida. My roof held and no trees fell on the house, miraculously enough. Spent two days cleaning up debris in the yard, but we fared better than most, for which I'm grateful. But I feel for so many that are suffering.
Sept 13, 2017 5:27:25 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Checking in from FL, I survived Irma with power and no damage to my apartment.
Sept 11, 2017 16:11:29 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: As for Creation, this is why I work them.
May 27, 2017 17:00:08 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Oh, the new owners for Megacon are just turning it into a meat grinder. They've screwed over a lot of people.
May 27, 2017 16:59:57 GMT -5
paforrest: Yeah, I've been to a few Megacons in the past - they can be a cluster. But I was talking about how years ago I'd have been thrilled if a Creation SPN con finally came here. Now it is and I don't care and can't justify the money. Changing times.
May 27, 2017 5:34:48 GMT -5