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Post by onali on Mar 8, 2017 21:14:41 GMT -5
www.ksitetv.com/supernatural/supernatural-spoilers-ladies-drink-free/144621/A WOLF IN THE NIGHT – Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) let Mick Davies (guest star Adam Fergus) tag along on a case as they search for a werewolf. The three men run into Claire Novak (guest star Kathryn Love Newton), also working the hunt. However, the reunion is short lived after Claire is bitten and the brothers race to find a way to help her before she turns. Amyn Kaderali directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1216). Original airdate 3/30/2017. Are we getting rid of Claire?!! *fingers crossed Reading between the lines, coming episode Sam comes clean about the BMoL? Seeing as they let Mick tag along. Also a little break, this episode airs at the end of the month.
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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 8, 2017 21:28:22 GMT -5
Are we getting rid of Claire?!! *fingers crossed We might be unless there is now a cure for werewolves that the BMoL know. If Sam and Dean let her go, the BMoL will probably kill her at the end of the episode. People were speculating that there would be problems if the BMoL went after Garth, but if they can't get DJ Qualls, then this might be another way to go with it.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Mar 8, 2017 21:36:43 GMT -5
Personally, I like Claire. And I'm tired of all the woman-fridging on TV.
I figured we'd get a break. We usually do around this time.
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Post by onali on Mar 8, 2017 21:53:25 GMT -5
I like her better then I liked Chrissy, but I don't like how she is written.
She is too whiny, yes she is young and yes she hasn't the easiest past but there is something about her that I can't stand.
I have absolutely nothing against Kathryn, I like her, just not her character.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Mar 8, 2017 23:11:53 GMT -5
Claire can be a pain in the ass, but I think Kathryn is better at conveying vulnerability and uncertainty than the actress who played Krissy. There are times when Claire will say something snarky, but then look uncertain and glance up at Dean sideways, as if for approval. Those are the times when warm to her a bit and I think her relationship with Dean is rather sweet.
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Post by gobeklitepe1 on Mar 8, 2017 23:14:32 GMT -5
I really hope this doesn't mean that Sam had already convinced Dean to "join" the BMoL. I definitely wanted to Dean to hold out on this. (Not totally surprised: Dabb's elitist preferences would probably dictate that everyone end up seeing the worth of being associated with the British twits.)
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Post by sleepersix on Mar 8, 2017 23:21:02 GMT -5
I'm prob in the minority but I like Claire and Dean. I think Kathryn and Jensen play off each other really well. Maybe I'm just a sucker for Dad!Dean, but I usually like their scenes.
Claire still has plenty of issues with characterization (and sometimes with Kathryn's delivery), but I still prefer her over Krissy or Kate the Werewolf or any of those moppets from Fan Fiction.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Mar 8, 2017 23:47:46 GMT -5
Yeah, there's more to work with there than with Krissy or, for that matter, Charlie. I thought that dinner scene about birth control was hysterical, especially since Dean basically admitted to Jody later in the kitchen that he and Sam had been messing with her (well...she did ambush them first).
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Post by Mystique on Mar 9, 2017 3:45:16 GMT -5
Yeah seems to be a shorter mini hiatus than I thought it would be.
I actually think Claire is alright. And I do like her Dean-esque persona. Though I do not seem to get why, when they have her on lately, it's when Cas is off-screen? Maybe they'll mention him at least.
Since Dabb's wonderful BMoL are involved, I wonder if they'll go the route of having the all knowing BMoL to be the ones to have or find the cure for Claire, like it was the Campbells that had the Vamp cure for Dean. That could make them feel somewhat indebted to the inept BMoL, because she is kind of like an extended family member through Cas? Or possibly they'll have Claire start working with them because of that, and will have her get to know Mary? Personally, I would very much prefer it being either through Dean, Sam or Cas somehow to find the cure, if they do find one and not have her turn.
Eh, however it does go, the BMoL are not what I am interested in seeing, but they can be the boring ass backdrop for the interpersonal relationships of the main and recurring characters that I am interested in. I am just glad it was written by Glynn and I hope to see some great scenes.
P.S. I still do not see Dean working for the BMoL, as that would be OOC for him IMO. Working with them from time to time? Yes. Working for them? No.
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Post by fishpan on Mar 9, 2017 5:44:45 GMT -5
I agree with you about Claire. I think she is alright.
And yeah can see it that either Mick argues that they kill her and so Dean won't join or will pull out a cure for her and then Claire, Jodie, Dean and Cas will join the MoL wholeheartedly. I hope the writers don't go with that binary choice.
I hope that Dabb isn't basically setting up the idea that if the British men of letters got good hunters they would be perfect. But I think that if they go with either of those binary choices then that is where they are going and it will essentially become a kind of a no country for old men.
Dean could face off against Ketch in the end. One a killer who has his own set of rules and honour and the other a force of brutal nature who like being pointed in a direction and left and then winner won't really fit in to the new reality the Brits and Sam will create.
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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 9, 2017 6:38:03 GMT -5
I really hope this doesn't mean that Sam had already convinced Dean to "join" the BMoL. I definitely wanted to Dean to hold out on this. (Not totally surprised: Dabb's elitist preferences would probably dictate that everyone end up seeing the worth of being associated with the British twits.) I think that maybe Mick is going as part of Sam and the BMoL recruitment efforts? Maybe they're both trying to convince Dean to join. These are all guesses, but I'm thinking that if Mick knows a way to cure Claire, then Dean will sign up with the BMoL. If she can't be cured, and they kill her, then he won't. If she's given a cure and is then killed at the end after Sam and Dean leave, because the cure isn't really a cure, but a short term solution, then I'd say that Dean will sign up with the BMoL for the short term until Jody calls in an episode or two asking if Dean and Sam have seen Claire, and then Dean and Sam will find out what the BMoL have been doing after they leave town?
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Post by paforrest on Mar 9, 2017 8:25:29 GMT -5
I really hope this doesn't mean that Sam had already convinced Dean to "join" the BMoL. I definitely wanted to Dean to hold out on this. (Not totally surprised: Dabb's elitist preferences would probably dictate that everyone end up seeing the worth of being associated with the British twits.) I think that maybe Mick is going as part of Sam and the BMoL recruitment efforts? Maybe they're both trying to convince Dean to join. These are all guesses, but I'm thinking that if Mick knows a way to cure Claire, then Dean will sign up with the BMoL. If she can't be cured, and they kill her, then he won't. I'm sure Claire will live to be snotty another day. Sounds like an outright rehash/rip-off of Live Free and Twi Hard.
Can't be paid enough to care about snotty Claire, my only concern continues to be if Dean will be in the episode - like the whole episode. Or at what point does he drive away and disappear into the woods because ... whatever. But since Glynn is writing it, hopefully we have a better chance than not that Dean will have a decent role. Of course Dean can't hang onto his stance, correct as it may be - that was obvious at the end of the last episode. Yes, this is probably the episode that does it because snotty Claire must be saved. That is, if Dean hasn't capitulated before this. To be fair, the elitism of the MoL started under Carver's reign - that's when the storyline was conceived. Dabb just gave them an English accent and doubled-down on their superiority and entitlement. But, yes, there is still clearly an anti-blue collar hunter attitude at work from the showrunning, and I think it's pretty clear that's never going away.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Mar 9, 2017 19:41:15 GMT -5
I'm not convinced they're going to keep the LoL around as a friendly element, let alone dominant over the Winchesters. It's too big of a change in the franchise at this late date. But I have a sneaking suspicion they're wanting to keep Mick around in some capacity beyond this season.
I figure Retch will have a Gordon arc. I'm hoping they won't bring the Twat back, but they might, just to kill her off in Psycho!Anna fashion.
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Post by anouck9 on Mar 9, 2017 19:55:17 GMT -5
I'm not convinced they're going to keep the LoL around as a friendly element, let alone dominant over the Winchesters. It's too big of a change in the franchise at this late date. But I have a sneaking suspicion they're wanting to keep Mick around in some capacity beyond this season. Well, that would be a new way of making a spin-off... MAke the news actors come into your show and then erase the old ones little by little... (I'm mostly joking) I have the same feeling about Mick, which pisses me off, because the fact that he doesn't kill himself doesn't change the fact that he is the one sending Ketch on his clean-up missions... I'm not giving Ketch big odds of survival because he is way too psycho to have a credible change of heart, but I'm not a Mick fan either... And I can't say I would be thrilled by the "get rid of the grunt and keep the poshiest one", but that's just me.
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