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Post by idahoforspn on May 23, 2017 21:41:46 GMT -5
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Post by onali on May 23, 2017 21:53:42 GMT -5
I posted his other tweets and instagramposts in the seasonfinale thread.
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Post by thesnowleopard on May 23, 2017 23:49:31 GMT -5
He seems really pissed off. I'm super-curious to find out what happened, now.
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Post by saltgunempty on May 24, 2017 1:47:04 GMT -5
Wow. A death will stick. So, my guesses because this doesn't sound like an actor just deciding to move on and it was an abrupt death.
budget. Dwindling ratings due to incompetence having an impact. behind the scenes problems like complaining about Shakespeare and Twain over there. Petty crap, really. Dabb wants to fill the show with his characters. Chuck help them. panic reaction to falling ratings. Of course it can't be the virtuosos writing the show.
ngl, it took me awhile to warm up to Rowena and Crowley would regularly wear thin for me, but this is some dismantling going on. After Castiel and damn Lucifer the repeat characters with any semblance of history left are? Mary, Jody, krissy, Claire, Garth (please, never again), Chuck, Amara, Donna? I'm being very generous here, and, lbr, the women most likely aren't long for this world.
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Post by anouck9 on May 24, 2017 5:39:44 GMT -5
budget. Dwindling ratings due to incompetence having an impact. We'll see if DumbassLuciferBaby grows up to look like Mark Pellegrino... Could be as simple as not having the budget for the two Marks... And of course they would keep the wrong one...
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Post by Mystique on May 24, 2017 6:49:47 GMT -5
SMH Sad.
If his something new isn't alt-world Crowley, which it doesn't seem like from the way he sounds quite done and the way in which they tossed out his character, then that's a damn shame. Dabb and Singer really screwed up epically with their incompetent show-running. Crowley was one of the 4 main characters, and regardless of what the bros-only fans chant incessantly, he was an important part of what made this show what it was.
No doubt he'll be just fine, the show on the other hand? Yeah, not so much.
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Post by idahoforspn on May 24, 2017 9:54:45 GMT -5
I think the decision on which Mark to keep goes to show the direction of sls for 13. Mark S was heavily associated with Dean and usually paired with Dean on screen. It is the exact opposite for Mark P. I think the shuffle to Mark P just fits in with Dabb's move to more Sam centered story lines.
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Post by anouck9 on May 24, 2017 13:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by thesnowleopard on May 24, 2017 14:00:52 GMT -5
Thing is, they're just quoting his tweets. No one contacted him to confirm it.
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Post by luxshine on May 24, 2017 14:06:29 GMT -5
I think the decision on which Mark to keep goes to show the direction of sls for 13. Mark S was heavily associated with Dean and usually paired with Dean on screen. It is the exact opposite for Mark P. I think the shuffle to Mark P just fits in with Dabb's move to more Sam centered story lines. THIS. (Rowena also was far more cozy with Dean... as usual since Jensen can have chemestry with a broom). The second half of season 12 read pretty much like a very, very bad Sam-centric fanfic. I really have no hopes for season 13 except if Jensen got a better agent that started demanding equal treatment (Because history tells us that Jensen just doesn't do that, even if he deserves it) Guardar
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Post by anouck9 on May 24, 2017 14:15:44 GMT -5
I think the decision on which Mark to keep goes to show the direction of sls for 13. Mark S was heavily associated with Dean and usually paired with Dean on screen. It is the exact opposite for Mark P. I think the shuffle to Mark P just fits in with Dabb's move to more Sam centered story lines. Well it's just supposition right now... MArk P is not a sure thing (although of course Lucifer STILL isn't fucking dead...) But yeah, Crowley had more of a relationship with Dean. Come to think of it, after a whole season of aligning Dean with the supernatural, lmaybe we should really worry about Dean"s role in S13. Since ALL their supernatural allies/frenemies died in the finale.
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Post by SkeksisGirl on May 24, 2017 18:53:21 GMT -5
I think the decision on which Mark to keep goes to show the direction of sls for 13. Mark S was heavily associated with Dean and usually paired with Dean on screen. It is the exact opposite for Mark P. I think the shuffle to Mark P just fits in with Dabb's move to more Sam centered story lines. Well it's just supposition right now... MArk P is not a sure thing (although of course Lucifer STILL isn't fucking dead...) But yeah, Crowley had more of a relationship with Dean. Come to think of it, after a whole season of aligning Dean with the supernatural, lmaybe we should really worry about Dean"s role in S13. Since ALL their supernatural allies/frenemies died in the finale. They kill off Dean... they kill the show. If they don't see that, they don't deserve to be running it.
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Post by anouck9 on May 24, 2017 19:12:33 GMT -5
They kill off Dean... they kill the show. If they don't see that, they don't deserve to be running it. Well I don't htink they deserve it anyway... No, to be clear, they're not going to kill Dean, if only for the fact that Jensen is already signed for S13 no matter what. I meant more among the lines of what they did that year, with Dean in a fascinating "PrettyWallPaper" storyline, while Sam is an uber One Genius Hunting Machine.
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Post by thesnowleopard on May 24, 2017 20:18:46 GMT -5
Well, Mary and Castiel will be in the next season and they're both Deancentric. How long they'll be in the next season, though....
I don't think the way Dabb & Co. wrote Sam did Sam any favors, but I'm sure they thought it did.
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Post by anouck9 on May 24, 2017 20:48:09 GMT -5
Well, Mary and Castiel will be in the next season and they're both Deancentric. How long they'll be in the next season, though.... I don't think the way Dabb & Co. wrote Sam did Sam any favors, but I'm sure they thought it did. I find Castiel to be less and less Deancentric since Season 10, although that may be because his character arc is so over the place. But I can't shake up the fact that while Misha will be in S13, which version of Castiel will be is another issue. Misha was ambiguous about it at JIBCON, and while I doubt that any of them has actual infos about the story, a screwed up Alternate Castiel would be right up Dabb's alley... Is Samantha Smith confirmed?
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