Post by thesnowleopard on Oct 11, 2017 20:34:30 GMT -5
Ugh, seriously? Practically every other show on TV has something like a 70-30 m-f split for no damned good reason and we're still whinging about the lack of female representation on a show that has two male leads? There are some real rocket scientists asking *that* interview question these days!
Why not ask why the hell Legends of Tomorrow has two female regulars out of a cast of seven, or Arrow has three out of seven, or The Flash two out of six, or Gotham four out of freakin' thirteen, or the upcoming Justice League film one out of six? Or why Supergirl, an ostensibly female-heavy show, only has parity?
The new shows aren't any better. The Dynasty cast? Two out of eight. The entire premise of Valor involves a woman being surrounded by men. And before we get all excited about Riverdale and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, not only do those shows get terrible ratings, but they deserve them for the horribly retro roles they give to the female characters. Every female on Riverdale is a massive bitch of some type, while the men just can't help being whiny. And Crazy Ex-Girlfriend purports to be feminist and groundbreaking while pandering to the worst Lifetime Network cliches known to woman and failing to address the part that if this were a show about a Crazy Ex-*Boy*friend, we would be rooting for him to get the girl. Trust me--nobody is rooting for Rebecca to get the boy in CEG.
If any of those shows without parity tried to do a female-lead spinoff, they couldn't do it because they don't have enough female characters. Not only was Supernatural able to pull it off, it only needed to add two new characters to the show, for a total of six in a completely female cast.
Now, does Supernatural have its issues in the area of gender? Hell, yeah. But I am so forking sick and tired of this Ostroff-hangover bullshirt where everybody has to bang away about SPN's alleged misogyny, while ignoring the elephant in the room that is all the other shows that have no excuse for their embarrassing lack of parity. At least SPN's is baked in, since it only has two main characters and they're brothers.
But I am so forking sick and tired of this Ostroff-hangover bullshirt where everybody has to bang away about SPN's alleged misogyny, while ignoring the elephant in the room that is all the other shows that have no excuse for their embarrassing lack of parity. At least SPN's is baked in, since it only has two main characters and they're brothers.
I agree completely. This show's particular formula is what it has always been since the beginning, and it just feels like overwrought PC'ness at this point to complain about the lack of female presence in a show whose singular premise was focused on a pair of brothers. Sure, there have been female characters over the years that they've gotten rid of who I'd like to have stuck around in some capacity. But, guess what, I can say the same about many male characters who have been killed off that I'm missing too.
This show's fetish for killing off good characters, of both genders, is definitely a problem, no argument here. Though it's nowhere near as big a problem as keeping or resurrecting really crappy ones no one gives a damn about. Yes, Lucifer, I'm looking at you.
Last Edit: Oct 12, 2017 15:15:00 GMT -5 by paforrest
thesnowleopard: The season finale was better than last season's finale. Hell, the whole season was better than last season. Some episodes were worth watching. Others were kinda messy.
Jun 12, 2018 22:47:11 GMT -5
onali: Since I haven't been watching the show I don't know how some (former) dead characters have returned (in what form) but I have to say that I don't miss the show at all. Is it still worth watching or not?
May 7, 2018 19:43:37 GMT -5
onali: It's been a long time since I've been here. Only watched the Season premiere then .... nothing. Every now and again I watched what you were rating the episodes and yes I've seen some spoilers (can some people just please stay dead??!!!!!) (1)
May 7, 2018 19:42:01 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: I'm not, and I think I'm gonna stop working SPN conventions. BTW, welcome!
Feb 19, 2018 0:55:03 GMT -5
gopacgo12: Ok, so is anyone here going to the Las Vegas 2018 Supernatural convention, because if so I will see you there, but i'd just like to talk to some others
Feb 18, 2018 23:55:22 GMT -5
thesnowleopard: I have to wait until tomorrow night to "live recap." I don't currently have live TV, just streaming.
Oct 12, 2017 20:17:07 GMT -5
paforrest: Excited is not what I'm feeling. But I've set the dvr, will live watch Gotham & Will & Grace, then The Good Place off the dvr. Maybe tomorrow I'll FF through SPN if, and only IF, I hear there's any good Dean.
Oct 12, 2017 14:18:09 GMT -5
onali: So ... who is excited for tomorrow? I still have to re-watch the last couple of episodes, but I am lacking the enthousiasm.
Oct 11, 2017 21:45:06 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Just FYI guys, Luxshine is going to be in Florida come mid October. She and I are going to be vending as artists at Spooky Empire. So much hugs and puppies to her when she's here.
Sept 25, 2017 18:55:18 GMT -5
luxshine: Thank guys. There was ANOTHER earthquake here today, but this time I didn´t even feel it. Just dealing with a bit of PTSD. So if you can send fluffy things and cute Jensen or Misha pics my way, I´ll appreciate it.
Sept 23, 2017 16:37:18 GMT -5
onali: Glad you all are ok over there.
Sept 22, 2017 19:31:28 GMT -5
paforrest: So glad you're okay, luxshine! Absolutely heartbreaking situation. And I'm terrified and devastated for Puerto Rico and the other islands impacted by Maria. Mother Earth is very pissed off at us.
Sept 20, 2017 7:25:07 GMT -5
luxshine: New Earthquake here in Mexico. Now... a bit more savage than last week's. But I'm ok!
Sept 19, 2017 20:37:51 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: And now we may have Maria...
Sept 19, 2017 13:10:20 GMT -5
luxshine: I'm glad people from Florida are ok! We had a bit of an earthquake in Mexico, but other than three terrified kitties, I'm ok.
Sept 18, 2017 19:14:05 GMT -5
paforrest: Belatedly checking in from Florida. My roof held and no trees fell on the house, miraculously enough. Spent two days cleaning up debris in the yard, but we fared better than most, for which I'm grateful. But I feel for so many that are suffering.
Sept 13, 2017 5:27:25 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Checking in from FL, I survived Irma with power and no damage to my apartment.
Sept 11, 2017 16:11:29 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: As for Creation, this is why I work them.
May 27, 2017 17:00:08 GMT -5
SkeksisGirl: Oh, the new owners for Megacon are just turning it into a meat grinder. They've screwed over a lot of people.
May 27, 2017 16:59:57 GMT -5
paforrest: Yeah, I've been to a few Megacons in the past - they can be a cluster. But I was talking about how years ago I'd have been thrilled if a Creation SPN con finally came here. Now it is and I don't care and can't justify the money. Changing times.
May 27, 2017 5:34:48 GMT -5