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Post by Mystique on Oct 19, 2017 2:58:58 GMT -5
What's your rating for this?
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Post by thesnowleopard on Oct 20, 2017 21:56:14 GMT -5
Yeesh, that was boring. Also, a tad on the misogynistic side.
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Post by saltgunempty on Oct 21, 2017 10:58:32 GMT -5
I.... come on, show.
I hate when characters have a conversation about someone while that person is sleeping right by them. So stupid. Then they do it while the supernatural being is awake and then when he can definitely hear them. At that point you deserve to have him turn on you.
Maybe don't let him read the bible.
So... they have a southern gentleman demon with minions who he'll kill for not being good enough. The one who is focused on is a black man, Ahhh, nepotism duo and slavery undertones.
Setting Mary up for Lucifer to save her from being raped or murdered. Then he briefly tortures her. For Chuck's sake.
Sam is a selfish, projecting idjit and Dean is an idjit for being openly hostile and telling Jack he'll kill him. Maybe you can make an argument for honesty or not getting caught in a lie but it's also an obvious way to push him towards it. Having good or evil conversations around him is moronic.
Sam once again walking in and saving Dean. Awesome... at least Dean got to kill something this time. And he shot something. Big episode... I did laugh at Dean saying he'd be the one to kill Jack just because it's more like Sam will teleport in and do it while Dean is artfully beaten up.
Jack is going to get addicted to his own power and anger in the name of "doing the right thing" just like Sam did. I'm calling it now.
You know, I think I'd watch a well done show about someone like Jack struggling with what their nature is and learning to be human-esque. What any of that even means. I just don't like it as an arc on this show.
I liked Donatello.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Oct 21, 2017 11:54:00 GMT -5
I liked Donatello, too. Love that actor and I'm glad he's getting work. It was really stupid the way they brought him back, but I'm like, "Eh, it's Keith." There were so many other "wrong" things about this ep that I just rolled with that.
As Chuck is my witness, when I saw Asmodeus, I immediately thought of Don Johnson's character from Django Unchained and I've never even seen that film, just a clip here and there. So much ugh about his having a black guy as a demon minion. I'm amazed more of the Tumblr crowd don't call out the Nep Duo on their unabashed racism.
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Post by saltgunempty on Oct 21, 2017 15:03:09 GMT -5
Big Daddy...
It's at least the second time the nepotism duo has done this and they pull crap with women too. I'm not going to put it all on them because I'm surprised no one kills their worst garbage but it's really bad and I put a lot of it on them. When he came in and spoke my reaction was "Wha- No. Them." They're wholly irredeemable.
If Tumblr isn't angry about it then I don't know what to say. Isn't that supposed to be right up their alley? It's either missing it or ignoring it, niether of which would be good.
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Post by paforrest on Oct 22, 2017 7:48:54 GMT -5
I hate when characters have a conversation about someone while that person is sleeping right by them. So stupid. Then they do it while the supernatural being is awake and then when he can definitely hear them. At that point you deserve to have him turn on you. Maybe don't let him read the bible. So... they have a southern gentleman demon with minions who he'll kill for not being good enough. The one who is focused on is a black man, Ahhh, nepotism duo and slavery undertones. Setting Mary up for Lucifer to save her from being raped or murdered. Then he briefly tortures her. For Chuck's sake. Sam is a selfish, projecting idjit and Dean is an idjit for being openly hostile and telling Jack he'll kill him. Maybe you can make an argument for honesty or not getting caught in a lie but it's also an obvious way to push him towards it. Having good or evil conversations around him is moronic. Sam once again walking in and saving Dean. Awesome... at least Dean got to kill something this time. And he shot something. Big episode... I did laugh at Dean saying he'd be the one to kill Jack just because it's more like Sam will teleport in and do it while Dean is artfully beaten up. Jack is going to get addicted to his own power and anger in the name of "doing the right thing" just like Sam did. I'm calling it now. Yes, I'm already beyond tired of having Sam come in and save Dean every freaking episode. But I give points to the Nep Duo for at least turning around and allowing Dean to kill one of the demons with that cool knife throw, and for getting to shoot faux Donatello to prove he was someone/something else. It's clear that Jared P. has zero ability to perform stunts, especially ones that involve a lot of faux-fighting, like Jensen can do. But with Singer/Dabb insistence that "first in credits" play the hero most of the time, we can continue to expect Sam to get the last-second saves/kills while Jensen/Dean does all the actual fighting work up to the point that the baddie has to die. Annoying as hell, but also makes it increasingly obvious (as it has been to many of us over the years) that Jared simply doesn't have the capabilities that Jensen does, and hasn't had those capabilities in years, if not for most of the series run. So this Col Sanders knock-off is who Singer/Dabb wanted so desperately to replace Crowley/Mark S with? Wow, that guy is terrible - nothing but one-dimensional caricature. As for Jack, kid still can't act, and I'm already nauseated by the "St. Sam wuvs him/Meanie Dean hates him" routine. So ridiculously superficial. WB needs to put out milk cartons declaring missing "Shades of Gray", "Subtlety", and "Layers". Oh, and how embarrassing is the Purgatory rip-off? Lucille and Mary kept passing the same buried church steeple during their journeys, and everything seems to happen in that one location. The alt-universe must be very small, like the size of a postage stamp. The budget for this show is worse than ever, all to justify Mark P. and Alexander Whatever's regular status. Plus the whole Lucille/Michael throw-down was Trump-level "sad". I thought this was on par with the premiere - maybe another 3. The only surprise out of this episode is how Dean and Sam were in it more than I expected seeing as the Js were at Comic Con the entire week this was being filmed, so I really assumed they'd barely show up.
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Post by Mystique on Oct 22, 2017 18:39:34 GMT -5
Yeesh, that was boring. Also, a tad on the misogynistic side. Yeah,
1/10 for me
1 being for Jensen/Dean, the rest of the episode I was mostly like and some .
Michael was slightly intriguing, especially at the idea of Jensen possibly getting to play him someday (never gonna happen, I know), but he, as with Mary, were with Luci and he just sucks whatever interest I might have had right out of scenes involving him.
The Crowley replacement is painfully awful.
Another Nep/Duo Masterpiece.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Oct 22, 2017 18:57:18 GMT -5
Did Lucifer forget out to fly? I was like, "Pick her up and carry her instead of wandering around on foot, dummy. You can fly all around the world in a freakin' nanosecond."
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Post by saltgunempty on Oct 22, 2017 20:54:23 GMT -5
Nepotism duo probably forgot. If they didn't forget then I assume that's budget and pacing related. Gotta drag out their travels across that weirdly cheap looking alternate universe and save up for Jack's... Jack's... Jack's whatever his powers are supposed to look like at any given time. The alternate universe looke like they're walking around the same general area all of the time anyway.
The not so dynamic duo totally forgot but in the show world Lucifer would be that stupid.
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