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Post by Mystique on Dec 7, 2017 4:42:00 GMT -5
What's your rating for this one?
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Post by saltgunempty on Dec 8, 2017 23:33:29 GMT -5
Uncomfortable to watch and Jack's cgi is bad. Really bad.
So, Trump's America was referenced but I distinctly remember a Presidential Lucifer pregnancy arc. Shouldn’t Trump's America not exist in the Supernatural verse.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Dec 9, 2017 0:47:18 GMT -5
Yep, that was a bit of discontinuity, wasn't it?
I thought there was an awful lot of clumsy writing and convenient coincidence (plus, some rather uncomfortable stereotypes). Also, building up to the point where Kaia finally decided to step up and be a Hero took way too long and did her no favors.
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Post by Mystique on Dec 9, 2017 19:22:17 GMT -5
1/10 for me.
Ditto to what y'all have said.
The camera work also looked wonky to me, though there was some good landscape cinematography splashed in. Too bad Cas didn't know, for all those years, about the alternate Angel version of "Stomp" to eradicate Angel warding. And Dean and Sam trapped in the "Land of the Lost" was such a stupid ending IMO for several reasons.
1, as always, for Dean/Jensen.
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Post by paforrest on Dec 10, 2017 16:02:29 GMT -5
So, Trump's America was referenced but I distinctly remember a Presidential Lucifer pregnancy arc. Shouldn’t Trump's America not exist in the Supernatural verse. That's funny, I didn't even remember the Luci as president storyline, mostly because I found S12 so lame and awful that I think I'm blocking it out. But, you're right, it doesn't fit, but continuity is not a word the SPN writers know the meaning of, or care about even if they do. Of all the Waywards, I do think Kaia is potentially the best addition - certainly better than boring Patience Sue. Not that I really care about any of them, it's not like I'm going to be watching the show; but I found Kaia to be a little more interesting and better acted. Though I find it highly amusing that the preview for the second part of the midseason episode focused entirely on Dean and Sam, when, from everything I've heard about it, I'm guessing they're barely going to be in the episode as it's the big backdoor pilot episode for the Waywards. I anticipated they were going to show other AUs and not just the penny-sized apocalyptic world that Luci and Mary are in - or, rather, that Mary is still in, and Luci was in before he wasn't anymore. Easy way of keeping the brothers continuously out of Mary's orbit, which is just fine by me. Before I saw the episode I read the backlash on twitter about Dean pulling a gun on Kaia; and, yeah, I do think it was OOC, even though I understand what he was going for and the mindset Dean was in at the time. Normally something like that would really piss me off, yet I don't know why but I found I just didn't give a damn. The angel stomping was, naturally, a new twist on discontinuity - but at the same time I admit I found it kind of cool. All in all, I don't know - I guess I'd give this a 3-4/10.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Dec 10, 2017 21:08:29 GMT -5
I can't tell you why you didn't give a damn, but I can tell you why I didn't - it was because I was as sick of Kaia's bullshit at that point as Dean was. That was the second time someone on TFW 2.0 had saved her ass, and it had just been made abundantly clear to her that she needed to stick closer to the herd, but she *still* wanted to take off with a "thanks, but no thanks, see ya!" At that point, I was ready for her to get ganked by some random angel. I hate slow learners.
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Post by saltgunempty on Dec 12, 2017 13:13:21 GMT -5
I didn’t care for two reasons. Firstly, it was OOC and "that escalated quickly" writing so it made little sense. Secondly, it stems from a kind of OOC 180 in having to rescue Mary no matter what and I don't really care about that alt verse.
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