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Post by Mystique on Mar 1, 2017 17:36:52 GMT -5
So, what would you rate it?
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Post by nitar on Mar 2, 2017 21:08:18 GMT -5
0/10
1 point for Dean getting to call Mary out at the beginning but that gets taken away for the apology at the end
This goes into the do not watch list - at this point I have quite a few episodes which are far far far far worse than Bloodlines which most seem to feel is the worrst SPN episode ever. I may just delete the entire S12 and pretend it never happened.
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Post by onali on Mar 2, 2017 23:15:12 GMT -5
It started out great, really really great. Overall the episode wasn't bad.
The compound was incredibly unsafe and had major faults. Guess building a safe perimeter wasn't that necessary.
Did the Alpha, RIP, did bring additional vamps? Because there were far more than 11 vamps attacking the place.
Mick is waaaaaaay to sensitive, doesn't have the stomach for this line of work.
Ketch, kuddos for the IMDB-er who guessed right with his relationship with lady Deadeyes.
Great Ackting as always, seriously his eyes <3 OMC Jared also impressed me, again, his stance and facial expressions were spot on with his first encounter at the wannabe bunker. I loathed Sam's decision at the end, but that's not Jared fault.
I don't have the energy to raid this, because those last minutes really drained me. Finally Dean told Mary how his life has been, he even got angry at Sam, rightfully. But it was all taken away at the end. Plus Sam's stupid decision.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 3, 2017 0:51:35 GMT -5
0/10 1 point for Dean getting to call Mary out at the beginning but that gets taken away for the apology at the end This goes into the do not watch list - at this point I have quite a few episodes which are far far far far worse than Bloodlines which most seem to feel is the worrst SPN episode ever. I may just delete the entire S12 and pretend it never happened. I gave it a point for that too.
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Post by loops on Mar 3, 2017 1:13:43 GMT -5
0/10 1 point for Dean getting to call Mary out at the beginning but that gets taken away for the apology at the end This goes into the do not watch list - at this point I have quite a few episodes which are far far far far worse than Bloodlines which most seem to feel is the worrst SPN episode ever. I may just delete the entire S12 and pretend it never happened. I did a mental fist pump at that opening scene. And then they ruined it with everything that followed. 1/10 for Dean in the Deanmon red shirt.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 3, 2017 1:35:30 GMT -5
I'll give it a 3/10
I loved the scenes with Dean, Mary and Sam having their confrontation in the bunker. And the scene with Dean and Mary at the end. I didn't see, like others have noted, that Dean apologized for anything, but explained that when he thought his mom was in danger that all that other stuff didn't matter. Mary was the one that apologized, and I loved that too. I saw more of his explanation to her as him forgiving her and reconciling himself to accepting who she is. As well as what that means for, and how it effects, their new dynamic as it now stands. And I'm glad Mary's secrets are now out in the open.
Mick and Retch weren't as boring as usual, still not interesting, but a little less mind-numbing. The Alpha was pretty good to see again, and I liked his jabs toward the BMoL's.
The BMoL Bunker and redshirts, as well as the Vamps were dull . Sam killing the Alpha Vamp with the colt while Dean was completely out of the picture, but he was on his way RME. And then the end when Sam decided to go in with the inept BMoL's and said for them to give him some time, in relation to getting Dean on board, like I posted in the discussion thread-I got why Mary's doing it, not sure why the hell Sam's doing it though. Whether he has a plan in mind or he is still so damn hung up on having a "normal life". However, I don't see Dean ever punching the BMoL's time-clock, working with them periodically when it's mutually beneficial sure, but Dean doesn't like to be under anyone's thumb.
So, overall, I'd say below average middle of the road.
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Post by anouck9 on Mar 3, 2017 4:04:54 GMT -5
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So I'm guessing Dabb is not planning to get his head out of Sam's ass anytime soon. And what's up with the "previouslies"? Is it a nice way to remind us every week "eh!remember when Dean was actually in the story?", just to show us an episode that says "suckers!I can believe you're still fallig for it!"
So Dean apologizes, *again*, to someone who lied to him. And Sam... Well I guess that technically Dean should have seen it coming, as soon as he told Sam to pick a side... Of course it was going to be the *other* side. At this point I'm not interested in Sam's motives, or anything really. The only thing that worries meabout it is that Dabb is so in love with Mary and Sam that I'm starting to wonder if he's not going to turn randomly the LOL in the good guys...
Not plannign to watch the next week Perez clusterfuck, and really wish I hadn't bothered with this one either.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 3, 2017 6:43:59 GMT -5
Great Ackting as always, seriously his eyes <3 OMC Absolutely.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 3, 2017 6:49:50 GMT -5
I did a mental fist pump at that opening scene. And then they ruined it with everything that followed. 1/10 for Dean in the Deanmon red shirt. I loved that opening scene and the flashbacks to the rest of the convo.
And the Deanmon red shirt was also a plus in my book.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 3, 2017 7:16:34 GMT -5
0 And what's up with the "previouslies"? Is it a nice way to remind us every week "eh!remember when Dean was actually in the story?", just to show us an episode that says "suckers!I can believe you're still fallig for it!" The only thing that worries meabout it is that Dabb is so in love with Mary and Sam that I'm starting to wonder if he's not going to turn randomly the LOL in the good guys... Not plannign to watch the next week Perez clusterfuck, and really wish I hadn't bothered with this one either. Yeah, I know, right? This recently much more overt and in-your-face pushing of Dean out to pasture while Sam does all the episode's heroics is infuriating .
I do not think Dabb or Singer give a crap about Mary, like at all. She appears, to me at least, as fodder for the stories he seems to be relishing in-Sam, the BMoL and Luci (who is, of course, tied to Sam). I have no idea where he plans to go with the BMoL, but there's no doubt in my mind that that's completely possible.
I hope it turns around after Spring hiatus. Meanwhile, I am just enjoying seeing Dean, Cas and Mary and watching the 1 storyline I am interested in this season. And I was finding Sam more enjoyable to watch, that is, until the Sam lurve-fest skyrocketed again in this latest string of episodes.
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Post by aduty1 on Mar 3, 2017 7:40:19 GMT -5
One of their worst episodes ever. A real deal breaker for me.
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Post by onali on Mar 3, 2017 9:01:27 GMT -5
0 And what's up with the "previouslies"? Is it a nice way to remind us every week "eh!remember when Dean was actually in the story?", just to show us an episode that says "suckers!I can believe you're still fallig for it!" Yeah, I know, right? This recently much more overt and in-your-face pushing of Dean out to pasture while Sam does all the episode's heroics is infuriating .
This was my thought as well when Dean showed up at the end ......... again. He is front and center in the Thenclips and very absent in the Now. I just hope the writers let Sam disappear too when PadaLady is born. Seems only right.
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Post by Mystique on Mar 4, 2017 5:41:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I know, right? This recently much more overt and in-your-face pushing of Dean out to pasture while Sam does all the episode's heroics is infuriating .
This was my thought as well when Dean showed up at the end ......... again. He is front and center in the Thenclips and very absent in the Now. I just hope the writers let Sam disappear too when PadaLady is born. Seems only right. Unfortunately, I doubt that, but if it does happen I'll be surprised.
I know others have said that they think it's because of the birth of Jensen's Twinkles, that we are seeing less of Dean, particularly in this fashion. And that may have a little bearing on what's been happening but, to me, it doesn't seem to explain this current trend.
I, myself, do not think that that is the reason he's being written in this way. Because, he had maybe a week and a half to two weeks extra time off besides the holiday break everyone had, and this trend has been going on around a month. They could have kept with the same quantity of on-screen time, and written it in a way that still included him and kept him pertinent, they chose this way instead.
I do think that when Jared's daughter is born, that they'll make sure Sam is included and written in a way for him to be kept pertinent to the episode, while still having the same time off as Jensen.
They both certainly do deserve their time off, and even more-so as the show goes on longer. However, with regard to some of this shows writers, less time on-screen does not equate to less quality treatment with respect to their characters, and I would like for them to show they understand that.
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Post by paforrest on Mar 4, 2017 8:43:38 GMT -5
This was my thought as well when Dean showed up at the end ......... again. He is front and center in the Thenclips and very absent in the Now. I just hope the writers let Sam disappear too when PadaLady is born. Seems only right. ... I, myself, do not think that that is the reason he's being written in this way. Because, he had maybe a week and a half to two weeks extra time off besides the holiday break everyone had, and this trend has been going on around a month. They could have kept with the same quantity of on-screen time, and written it in a way that still included him and kept him pertinent, they chose this way instead.
I do think that when Jared's daughter is born, that they'll make sure Sam is included and written in a way for him to be kept pertinent to the episode, while still having the same time off as Jensen.
I agree, we won't see any difference in Sam screen time when the latest is born, there wasn't any when the last one was born, therefore I don't buy the BS about time off for the twins. The Speight episode is when Jensen left for the birth, yet he had a decent amount of screen time in the Buckner/Lemming script which came after. Now maybe they flipped scripts, but now that I'm thinking about it, no, they didn't, this latest "Dean Who?" script was shot well into January, because I remember the tweets between Jensen and Jared. And this lack of Dean screen time and, more importantly, relevance to whatever is happening on screen week to week has been going on since the beginning of the season, when Jensen was fully there and able to work. So there's really no excuse and appears more and more to be an overt choice on the part of the showrunners and most of the male writers on staff, who make it sound like it's personal against Jensen when they get on twitter and praise literally every single actor in the episode they wrote that week EXCEPT for Jensen. There's no way that doesn't look calculated, not to mention childish. For whatever reason they don't want to write for Dean/Jensen this year. Why? We'll never get a straight answer. So now the question remains if this pattern will continue into next season.
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Post by thesnowleopard on Mar 4, 2017 16:57:24 GMT -5
Or we won't see much difference because the bulk of the show's Sam stuff involves exposition by other characters and Jared has been scaling back filming for years, so we don't notice it as much.
Jensen's screentime is much more hands-on and the show seems to be allergic to giving Dean's stories the big, broad strokes they give to Sam's storylines, so Jensen's onscreen absence is felt more keenly by the fans.
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