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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 2, 2017 19:47:05 GMT -5
What are your hopes for the upcoming episode (12.14)?
Here are my hopes for the episode tonight (I am 100% sure these won't happen):
The Alpha Vamp survives to fight another day.
Dean, as the only one not locked into that facility, meets with the Alpha Vamp and agrees to join the BMoL to take them down if the Alpha Vamp makes the vampires inside the facility stand down. Everyone is making all kinds of deals this season. Why not add another?
If Dean does agree to work with the BMoL going forward, we are allowed to see that he is only doing it, so he can destroy the organization.
Sam stops with his incessant need to placate Mary and vents to her.
Lots of dead BMoL with at least Mick dead too, because I know they're holding out with Mr. Ketch until later.
Dean doesn't get lectured by Mary, Sam, or Mr. Ketch.
There are no long monologues from villains.
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Post by nitar on Mar 3, 2017 5:42:53 GMT -5
What are your hopes for the upcoming episode (12.14)? Here are my hopes for the episode tonight (I am 100% sure these won't happen): The Alpha Vamp survives to fight another day. Dean, as the only one not locked into that facility, meets with the Alpha Vamp and agrees to join the BMoL to take them down if the Alpha Vamp makes the vampires inside the facility stand down. Everyone is making all kinds of deals this season. Why not add another? If Dean does agree to work with the BMoL going forward, we are allowed to see that he is only doing it, so he can destroy the organization. Sam stops with his incessant need to placate Mary and vents to her. Lots of dead BMoL with at least Mick dead too, because I know they're holding out with Mr. Ketch until later. Dean doesn't get lectured by Mary, Sam, or Mr. Ketch. There are no long monologues from villains. Was busy yesterday so didn't get to see this but looks like you're at 0 ? Those were good hopes - pity none of them worked out.
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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 3, 2017 5:51:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I was originally going to have Hopes/ Concerns (Fears) and switched it to just hopes by converting some of the concerns into hopes in an attempt to make it more positive. All I managed to do was lose all of my hopes. This show tends to do that though. Better luck next week. ETA: Although Dean still hasn't signed on the dotted line. I guess that's something . . . for now. I'm giving myself half a point for that.
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Post by nitar on Mar 7, 2017 2:16:01 GMT -5
ETA: Although Dean still hasn't signed on the dotted line. I guess that's something . . . for now. I'm giving myself half a point for that. Yeah - looking at the bright side, I hope he stays strong and doesn't sign up with them. AND I hope he's proved right.
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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 7, 2017 15:44:19 GMT -5
I too hope that Dean holds out and doesn't give in to what Sam and Mary want. I'm stealing that.
I do think that he'll be proven right. We've seen all season the BMoL are not the good guys, so at least we know he's right.
My hopes for episode 12.15:
That Sam is straight forward with Dean about saying he's going to work with (for?) the BMoL.
That Dean refuses to bend to Sam, Mary, and the BMoL will on the BMoL issue unless Sam is doing it to infiltrate the BMoL (I see no evidence that. If anything, I think they've hinted a number of times this season that Sam still hasn't gotten the wanting to be 'normal' bug out of his system. I'm just covering all my businesses). I don't want to see Sam want to do something, Dean doesn't because he thinks it's wrong, and then Dean agrees by the end of the episode to keep the peace (like with Ruby). - nitar gets credit for this one if it happens. She said it first.
That Dean kills 'The' Hellhound.
That there are some good Dean and Crowley scenes.
That Lucifer gets sent to the cage never to be seen again.
That if anyone can control 'The' Hellhound, it's Lucifer, not Crowley or Sam.
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Post by anouck9 on Mar 8, 2017 6:37:11 GMT -5
My expectations are low enough that I don't plan to watch 12.15 at all, and certainly not live. I have only one hope, based on what I actually expect to happen: I expect that -we will see very little of Dean -Crowley, who is currently a stupid ball of his own, will betray Dean for one reason or another, allowing Sam to school Dean in the errors of his way and show him that Sam's choice is the correct one -Sam will of course be the on eto kill the Hellhound
My actual only hope is that they won't take the opportunity of Sam killing the Hellhound to bring the asinine trials storyline back (and I'm on shaly ground on that hope)
My biggest worry is that I'm not that confident anymore that the showrunner intend for the Bmol (except for the hands-on killer Ketch, you know, the one we're supposed to see as Dean's mirror) to be bad guys, adn that's honestly not a direction I could get behind.
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Post by nitar on Mar 8, 2017 6:59:25 GMT -5
My expectations are low enough that I don't plan to watch 12.15 at all, and certainly not live. I have only one hope, based on what I actually expect to happen: I expect that -we will see very little of Dean -Crowley, who is currently a stupid ball of his own, will betray Dean for one reason or another, allowing Sam to school Dean in the errors of his way and show him that Sam's choice is the correct one -Sam will of course be the on eto kill the Hellhound My actual only hope is that they won't take the opportunity of Sam killing the Hellhound to bring the asinine trials storyline back (and I'm on shaly ground on that hope) My biggest worry is that I'm not that confident anymore that the showrunner intend for the Bmol (except for the hands-on killer Ketch, you know, the one we're supposed to see as Dean's mirror) to be bad guys, adn that's honestly not a direction I could get behind. I'm also not going to be watching this one live. That is a really busy time for me since it is morning when I am getting ready for work and I don't want to waste that time on an episode by Perez of all people. But your expectations are lower than mine. I do agree with your one hope - I hope they don't bring that crappy storyline back but going by their track record (Lucifer etc), I wouldn't put it past them. I still hope Dean turns out to be correct in not trusting the BMoL. Am afraid the rest of your very depressing scenario would happen but keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't
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Post by cluelessdrifter on Mar 8, 2017 7:23:55 GMT -5
My expectations are low enough that I don't plan to watch 12.15 at all, and certainly not live. I have only one hope, based on what I actually expect to happen: I expect that -we will see very little of Dean -Crowley, who is currently a stupid ball of his own, will betray Dean for one reason or another, allowing Sam to school Dean in the errors of his way and show him that Sam's choice is the correct one -Sam will of course be the on eto kill the Hellhound My actual only hope is that they won't take the opportunity of Sam killing the Hellhound to bring the asinine trials storyline back (and I'm on shaly ground on that hope) My biggest worry is that I'm not that confident anymore that the showrunner intend for the Bmol (except for the hands-on killer Ketch, you know, the one we're supposed to see as Dean's mirror) to be bad guys, adn that's honestly not a direction I could get behind. So, you expect these things to happen, but I'm going to say you hope they don't. Not to put words in your mouth, but I'm giving you credit for these if they happen: That we'll see Dean for every single act and that he doesn't disappear for part of the episode only to show up at the end when it's all over. That Crowley is not written OOC like he seems to have been since the winter break at least. That Crowley won't betray Dean, and that Sam can't use it as a teachable moment. That they won't take the opportunity of Sam killing the Hellhound to bring the asinine trials storyline back. (For what it's worth, I think you might have a winner with this one.) Ooh, I just thought of another one to add to my list.
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Post by anouck9 on Mar 8, 2017 7:49:39 GMT -5
You're rght, it's a much more positive way to say it!!!
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Post by ilovedean27 on Mar 8, 2017 12:57:50 GMT -5
My hopes:
Dean gets to kill the hellhound.
Dean and Crowley scenes are entertaining.
Sam immediately tells Dean his plans to work with the BMOL.
Lucifer dies once and for all.
Dean and Cas have a scene or two, or at least get to talk on the phone.
That we get the bad*** version of Cas and not the woobie version.
Sam doesn't clear his throat multiple times throughout the episode.
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Post by paforrest on Mar 8, 2017 13:59:31 GMT -5
My expectations are so low anymore that my only real hope for the episode is now the same as any episode - that Dean is in it, and more than what we see in the "previouslies" and the "next week's preview". And that he gets to participate, and not disappear 1/4-1/3 into the episode only to drive up at the bitter end after everything is all said and done.
I'd like more Dean and Crowley working together, but that goes along with hoping there's more than what we see in the preview.
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